Thomas Beatie Children, 'Pregnant man' Thomas Beatie and his new girlfriend are not ruling out having babies, but it may not be Beatie who will be the one to give birth this time.
The transgender, who made headlines four years ago when he became pregnant after marrying wife Nancy in 2003, revealed to Anderson Copper he is getting 'bottom surgery' - which means he will eventually have a penis.
Though getting pregnant has not totally been ruled out - as he could deliver the baby by C-section - doctors have advised against it, saying it is very risky.
When Anderson asked the couple about having babies together and who would likely carry the child, Thomas said: 'Hypothetically we have talked about starting a family together and we would have to check out our fertility options.
'Right now we have some of the same sperm used with the three children that I've had. We have two vials left at California Bank and there's a clinic in San Francisco that we might seek advice from.'
His oldest child with estranged wife Nancy is four-years-old and Thomas said she already knows that her daddy was pregnant, yet understands that women get pregnant too.
'My oldest Susan has seen the cover of my book where I am pregnant and she knows that she was inside me,' he said. 'I don't know when she knew but I think she's just known all along she saw me pregnant with her brothers.
'We are going to have that conversation if she wants to know about the nitty gritty later. What this is to her is normal and we had to show pictures of Nancy pregnant with her other daughters to show that women also get pregnant.
'But this was a way for us to start a family and I love them that much that I was willing to do whatever it took to have them.'
Beatie is trying to divorce Nancy but the motion is being blocked by an Arizona judge who says the marriage is not valid because Thomas is not a man. Same sex marriage is illegal in Arizona.
Thomas has called the judge's decision 'frustrating'.
'I live my life, I know who I am and someone else's opinion, even though it is a Judge's opinion is not going to change that. I am Thomas, I am husband, I am father, I am a man, hear me roar,' he said.
Anderson Cooper pointed out that he could get the marriage annulled but Thomas, though recognizing it would be the easiest thing to do says: 'My marriage did happen and I was married to Nancy for almost ten years, we paid taxes, we bought and sold homes, we started a family together and I want that to be validated. It's being challenged right now so if I back down from it we all lose.'
Thomas and new love Amber met at his children's school where she works.
Speaking about what it is like to date the world's most famous transgender, she said: 'My friends, they're kind of always joking and asking questions like, "How did this happen? How does this work?"
Just funny things but really my friends and family are very supportive of us and they love Thomas.'Thomas's marriage to first wife Nancy reached a bitter end when footage of her appearing to violently attack her husband, mishandle their children and destroy their computer emerged.
He has previously claimed that Nancy was a violent alcoholic who would attack him in the night and once punched him in the crotch in front of the kids.
In May, a judge gave Beatie temporary full custody over the couple’s three children.
He said: 'It's been a process. We physically separated back in March when I filed for separation and there was a protective order but basically I didn't wear my wedding ring for a year prior to that.
'We were supposed to finalize the divorce back a couple of months ago and the Judge is thinking it's out of jurisdiction and potentially could rule it as same sex marriage.'
The Arizona judge has highlighted that Beatie has a womb and has given birth to the couple’s three children during their nine-year marriage.
According to TMZ, the judge argues that he cannot find any legal authority that defines a man as someone who is able to give birth.
However, Beatie has filed documents hoping to prove his marriage’s legitimacy, highlighting that both his U.S. passport and his Hawaii birth certificate list him as a man.
Mr Beatie was born as a woman, Tracy Lagondino, in Hawaii in 1974, but says he always felt like he wanted to be a man.
When he was in his 20s he began having testosterone injections, giving him facial hair, a lower voice and altering his sexual organs.
The couple met shortly after Beatie began taking the testosterone. Nancy is 11 years older than him and has two teenage daughters, Amber and Jen, from a previous marriage.
But at the age of 28 she had a hysterectomy because of severe endometriosis - where cells from the lining of the womb are found elsewhere in the body - so she couldn’t have any more children.
Thomas had already had a mastectomy to remove his breasts, and hormone treatment that gave him an outwardly male appearance.
But he chose to keep his female sexual organs so the couple could have children.
They bought sperm from an anonymous donor and Beatie underwent artificial insemination.
He eventually fell pregnant with Susan in late 2007 and had his next two children in quickly after, as he only had a short window of not taking testosterone.
He posed for a famous picture in 2007 which displayed him as heavily pregnant but with facial hair.
He told Oprah on her show four years ago: 'I wanted to have a child one day. I didn't know how. It was just a dream.'
The couple has been open about their sex life, revealing on Oprah that the testosterone had enlarged Beatie's clitoris. It grew to a small penis, allowing him to have sex with his wife, he said.
In March, Beatie revealed he had filed for bankruptcy and was desperately seeking a job to get his family off welfare handouts and pay his $5,000-a-month mortgage.
The transgender, who made headlines four years ago when he became pregnant after marrying wife Nancy in 2003, revealed to Anderson Copper he is getting 'bottom surgery' - which means he will eventually have a penis.
Though getting pregnant has not totally been ruled out - as he could deliver the baby by C-section - doctors have advised against it, saying it is very risky.
When Anderson asked the couple about having babies together and who would likely carry the child, Thomas said: 'Hypothetically we have talked about starting a family together and we would have to check out our fertility options.
'Right now we have some of the same sperm used with the three children that I've had. We have two vials left at California Bank and there's a clinic in San Francisco that we might seek advice from.'
His oldest child with estranged wife Nancy is four-years-old and Thomas said she already knows that her daddy was pregnant, yet understands that women get pregnant too.
'My oldest Susan has seen the cover of my book where I am pregnant and she knows that she was inside me,' he said. 'I don't know when she knew but I think she's just known all along she saw me pregnant with her brothers.
'We are going to have that conversation if she wants to know about the nitty gritty later. What this is to her is normal and we had to show pictures of Nancy pregnant with her other daughters to show that women also get pregnant.
'But this was a way for us to start a family and I love them that much that I was willing to do whatever it took to have them.'
Beatie is trying to divorce Nancy but the motion is being blocked by an Arizona judge who says the marriage is not valid because Thomas is not a man. Same sex marriage is illegal in Arizona.
Thomas has called the judge's decision 'frustrating'.
'I live my life, I know who I am and someone else's opinion, even though it is a Judge's opinion is not going to change that. I am Thomas, I am husband, I am father, I am a man, hear me roar,' he said.
Anderson Cooper pointed out that he could get the marriage annulled but Thomas, though recognizing it would be the easiest thing to do says: 'My marriage did happen and I was married to Nancy for almost ten years, we paid taxes, we bought and sold homes, we started a family together and I want that to be validated. It's being challenged right now so if I back down from it we all lose.'
Thomas and new love Amber met at his children's school where she works.
Speaking about what it is like to date the world's most famous transgender, she said: 'My friends, they're kind of always joking and asking questions like, "How did this happen? How does this work?"
Just funny things but really my friends and family are very supportive of us and they love Thomas.'Thomas's marriage to first wife Nancy reached a bitter end when footage of her appearing to violently attack her husband, mishandle their children and destroy their computer emerged.
He has previously claimed that Nancy was a violent alcoholic who would attack him in the night and once punched him in the crotch in front of the kids.
In May, a judge gave Beatie temporary full custody over the couple’s three children.
He said: 'It's been a process. We physically separated back in March when I filed for separation and there was a protective order but basically I didn't wear my wedding ring for a year prior to that.
'We were supposed to finalize the divorce back a couple of months ago and the Judge is thinking it's out of jurisdiction and potentially could rule it as same sex marriage.'
The Arizona judge has highlighted that Beatie has a womb and has given birth to the couple’s three children during their nine-year marriage.
According to TMZ, the judge argues that he cannot find any legal authority that defines a man as someone who is able to give birth.
However, Beatie has filed documents hoping to prove his marriage’s legitimacy, highlighting that both his U.S. passport and his Hawaii birth certificate list him as a man.
Mr Beatie was born as a woman, Tracy Lagondino, in Hawaii in 1974, but says he always felt like he wanted to be a man.
When he was in his 20s he began having testosterone injections, giving him facial hair, a lower voice and altering his sexual organs.
The couple met shortly after Beatie began taking the testosterone. Nancy is 11 years older than him and has two teenage daughters, Amber and Jen, from a previous marriage.
But at the age of 28 she had a hysterectomy because of severe endometriosis - where cells from the lining of the womb are found elsewhere in the body - so she couldn’t have any more children.
Thomas had already had a mastectomy to remove his breasts, and hormone treatment that gave him an outwardly male appearance.
But he chose to keep his female sexual organs so the couple could have children.
They bought sperm from an anonymous donor and Beatie underwent artificial insemination.
He eventually fell pregnant with Susan in late 2007 and had his next two children in quickly after, as he only had a short window of not taking testosterone.
He posed for a famous picture in 2007 which displayed him as heavily pregnant but with facial hair.
He told Oprah on her show four years ago: 'I wanted to have a child one day. I didn't know how. It was just a dream.'
The couple has been open about their sex life, revealing on Oprah that the testosterone had enlarged Beatie's clitoris. It grew to a small penis, allowing him to have sex with his wife, he said.
In March, Beatie revealed he had filed for bankruptcy and was desperately seeking a job to get his family off welfare handouts and pay his $5,000-a-month mortgage.
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